Problem with update Device Protection

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  • rob_b
    rob_b Posts: 5 Explorer

    Hello again @Firmy I see it may be related to pending Windows Patches or Hot-Fixes. I see the following are not yet installed:

    2025-04 Kumulatives Update für Windows 11 Version 24H2 für x64-basierte Systeme (KB5055523

    2025-04 .NET 8.0.15 Security Update for x64 Client (KB5056686)

    2025-04 Kumulatives Update für .NET Framework 3.5 und 4.8.1 für Windows 11, version 24H2 für x64 (KB5054979)

    Maybe this will solve the issue.

    br,

    Rob

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    @Firmy , still the same Problem for ASUS E510 Win 11 Laptop with F-Secure TOTAL 25.3 downloaded 2025-04-03

    1. Device Protection 1.0.2503. 5246 is still loop Installing at 2025-04-09 kl 16:26 manual download used
    2. Device Protection 1.0.2503. 5246 is still loop Installing at 2025-04-09 kl 16:31 manual download used

      Pink Floyd: if You don't Eat your Meat how can you have any Pudding (osv)

      So what is F-Secure Staff doing All Day Long ??

    Fixed me Mom (88 Bast - Years) Win 10 Acer Laptop 17 Tum with ESET Home 30 Days Trial, now She can play Kungen, Harpan mm 😁

    https://login.eset.com/login

    Win 10 Acer Laptop Works Ok !

    This is written from Her ASUS E510 Win 11 Laptop from year 2024-05 (2.500 sek) with F-Secure TOTAL , the Laptop came with Win 11 Home Safe Mode so of course I had to re-Install Win 11 to be able to Download external SW, Software year 2024

    Like BankID (within Sweden) etc. so NO EU - EU Parliament ID and / or EU BankID is needed !

    https://www.bankid.com/

    I Update Gov Dept NCSC plus MFP now and then depending what is found etc.

    https://www.ncsc.se/

    https://mpf.se/

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Now F-Secure TOTAL VPN is called: Unified Wintum within Win 11 Home Laptop functions

    F-Secure TOTAL VPN-protocol: Hydra - den snabbaste, säkraste anslutningen (in Swedish) so this looks New

    F-Secure TOTAL 25.3 still loop Install: Device Protection 1.0.2503.5246 , 2025-04-10 kl 03:17

    F-Secure TOTAL 25.3 still loop Install: Device Protection 1.0.2503.5246 , 2025-04-10 kl 03:19

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Win 11 Version 23H2 x64 KB5055528 Downloaded and Installed Ok for the moment at least.

    https://windows101tricks.com/windows-11-update-stuck/

    Result: F-Secure TOTAL 25.3 Device Protection 1.0. 2503.5246 still loop Install and FSDIAG Zip File (fsdiag.zip) is available, where to send or upload ?

    Today Tvättstugan - Landry at 06:00

  • Firmy
    Firmy Posts: 2,225 Community Manager

    Hello @rob_b @Molly1900

    Thank you for your comment and clarification.

    We’d like to investigate this issue further to help resolve the problem as soon as possible.

    To assist with our investigation, we kindly ask you to generate a debug log and share the file with us. For your privacy and security, please do not post the file publicly on the forum. We’ve sent you a private message with instructions on how to upload the log file (fsdiag.zip).

    We appreciate your cooperation and look forward to your response.

    Thank you, and have a great day.

    Firmy
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  • rob_b
    rob_b Posts: 5 Explorer

    Hello @Firmy

    I a separate thread message I have answered you, that yesterday due of a separate ongoing support case with Agent "Olivia G" i sent via email my log file "fsdiag.zip" which has been generated via the support tool within F-Secure Application.

    Hope it helps.

    Rob

  • Firmy
    Firmy Posts: 2,225 Community Manager

    Hello @rob_b

    Thank you for the information.

    We can confirm that your ticket is being handled. Any updates or further details will be sent to your email. We are committed to resolving this issue as quickly as possible.

    Wishing you a wonderful day.

    Firmy
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  • at11
    at11 Posts: 2 Observer

    Hello,

    I’m encountering the same loop problem. Got the f-secure update 25.3. on April 6 and Win10 22H2 update yesterday (cumulative 22H2 update kb5055518 successful, but the security update failed to install after which it was removed from the update queue, app said it will retry later). I’ve been stuck in the f-secure (got update) loop “device restart is needed”, since windows was updated last night. Hoping for some help

    Alex

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    ASUS E510 Win 11 Home with F-Secure TOTAL 25.3 still loop Install Device Protection 1.0.2503.5246 today Friday 2025-04-11 at 04:05 and 2025-04-11 at 04:08

    FSDIAG file sent several Times to F-Secure !

    https://www.f-secure.com/en/support/tools


    El-Giganten has McAfee (unlimited device) for under 1.000 sek incl. VPN Function, so Next to Evaluate after ESET Home 30 Days is Done for the old Acer Win 10 Laptop.

    https://www.elgiganten.se/datorer-kontor/mjukvara/antivirus


    Already Tested ESET Home 30 Days for the ASUS E510 Win 11 Home, it's just to de-Activate F-Secure TOTAL and Activate ESET Home or un-Install F-Secure TOTAL etc.


    Time if Flying since @Adam1995 Reported this Problem 2025-03-21 and how many out There can run Win xx DOS cmd

    Elderly Folks don't know Win xxx DOS cmd when asking and they hardly know how to Update their smart mobiles e.g. Samsung 4G or 5G in the following order:

    1. Samsung OS → One UI-version x.y , Android-xx
    2. Google Play-system Update
    3. All App's used via Google Play Store

    Similar for iPhone and other smart mobiles.

  • KAndy1806
    KAndy1806 Posts: 4 Explorer

    downloaded F-Secure 25.3. No improvement on my HP- notebook: Still loop Installing.
    By the way: what is the risk running my notebook with not fully functional F-Secure and what is your recommendation ?

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Seams F-Secure Staff has Kaffe ☕️ rast - break 24/7 since F-Secure TOTAL version 25.3 still loop Install Device Protection 1.0. 2503.5246 today 2025-04-14 kl 19:07

    I'm having Kaffe ☕️now looking at other Anti Virus solutions, Stock Market etc. 😎

  • Pewi1982
    Pewi1982 Posts: 3 Observer

    Hi
    This problem still persists and today is April 17, 2025.
    Everything is stuck in a loop since the update to 25.3 and no solution in sight.
    Could it be that while this, which at least seems to be a global problem, persists, everyone at F-secure has taken the weekend and will let the problem hang in the air?
    There is nowhere to send the file generated via the diagnostic tool either, and also no pm from F-secure.
    Just a question from someone who is not as knowledgeable as the rest of you, is the only right thing to do to remove F-Secure completely and only rely on Windows Defender?

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Pewi1982 I use this Web Link sent by F-Secure or FSDIAG file via F-Secure TOTAL Software (installed at Win 11 Laptop) → Help and Support (translation from Swedish) → Run Support Tool to create FSDIAG Zip file

    1. https://www.f-secure.com/en/support/tools

      after FSDIAG Zip is created I'll use: Submit a sample → File sample

      Support tool FSDIAG for Windows or Mac
    2. https://www.f-secure.com/en/support/submit-a-sample

    You have to try if I does Not work = "knappa"- click and click till it works for You, add your Name and e-mail via F-Secure Web Formulär (Form)

    Trial and Error to Learn 😁since year 1983 from NMT-450 Cellphones (11 Kg) and Vidare - Beond, soon 6G out there and Next Win xx - Mac etc. Release …

    https://www.ericsson.com/en/6g


    Samsung 4G and 5G smart mobiler Ok at least 2025-04-18 using F-Secure TOTAL License, so this seams to be Win xx and maybe Mac Computer (Laptop , Desktop, "Padda" (iPad - Surfplatta) related Problem only ??

    https://www.elgiganten.se/mobiler-tablets-smartklockor/surfplatta/ipad

    https://www.elgiganten.se/mobiler-tablets-smartklockor/surfplatta/android-surfplatta

  • Pewi1982
    Pewi1982 Posts: 3 Observer

    Hi Molly
    Thanks for your reply.🙂
    I have now submitted a file via the path you showed, so I have also received an automatic email that a case has been created.

    But how does this error actually work, is it as someone said that every time you restart the computer, more and more hard drive space is taken up due to this error?

    I have an old computer that does not have a very large hard drive, so I would like someone knowledgeable to answer if it is that way and if in that case it is better to uninstall the program completely on the computer while waiting for a solution.
    And is the program even of any use right now in this broken state it is in now?

    And do you or anyone else here know if any solution is in the works, or if a solution is several weeks away? Have you received any communication from F-Secure regarding this?

    I think we should be compensated for this loss of service by receiving extensions because this time when it has been broken for so long is taken from our subscription period.

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Hi Pewi1982 , have sent a New FSDIAG Zip file to F-Secure Customer Support after trying their Solution = still lopp Install

    Open a New Case: Bank Protection Unstable with version 25.3 , maybe it's related to this Problem !?

    Waiting to F-Secure Feedback and by the way: Glad Påsk - Happy Easter (food the same during Swedish Midsommar and Christmas basically )🐣

    Some has Old Traditions from Vikings incl. World food like: Gazpacho, Sushi, Tex Mex, Kebab, Gyros, Tzatziki, Açorda and so On

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  • Pewi1982
    Pewi1982 Posts: 3 Observer

    Glad påsk! 🐥

    Där ser man, jag är också ifrån Sverige.

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Today one Month since this Problem was Reported !

    F-Secure info states Version 25.4 soon 🤧 less Pollen now after Rain ☔️

    https://community.f-secure.com/en/discussion/129339/bank-protection-unstable-with-version-25-3

  • Firmy
    Firmy Posts: 2,225 Community Manager

    Hello @at11 @KAndy1806 @Pewi1982

    Thank you all for your continued patience and for sharing your experiences with us.

    We understand that the issue with Device Protection continuing to loop during installation is causing frustration for many of you.

    We kindly ask you to generate a debug log and send it over to us. You can do this by using the Support Tool within the F-Secure software (Help & Support section) to create the fsdiag.zip file.

    Once the file is generated, please do not post it publicly for your privacy and security. Instead, kindly send it to us via private message. Details and instructions have been sent to you via private message.

    Your cooperation is greatly appreciated, and we’re committed to resolving this as quickly as possible. We’ll keep you posted on any updates.

    @Molly1900 could you please clarify what you mean by the banking protection being unstable? Additionally, could you share the banking URL you’re referring to?

    Thank you once again for your understanding.

    Firmy
    Community Manager | F-Secure Community
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  • joford
    joford Posts: 1 New Member

    I have the same issue. Win 10 PC. Removed FS completely. Reinstalled. No dice. Still stuck updating protection.

  • at11
    at11 Posts: 2 Observer

    Hi @Firmy

    For me, reinstalling seemed to do the trick. Not that it stuck. I had to do it all over again on April 19: same endless loop. But at the moment it’s working, so my FSDIAG-file would probably be of no use.

    By the way, if the “Send non-personalized user data” option is checked in user Settings, is FS getting real-time info about these recurring loop events and the un/reinstalling or is that referring to some other user data? Because even if a reinstall might temporarily help, I obviously would want FS to know about the issue whenever it happens, so that they get the data/stats/scale of the issue and can create a permanent fix.

  • Firmy
    Firmy Posts: 2,225 Community Manager

    Hello @Pewi1982 @KAndy1806

    After reviewing your FSDIAG, we found that the installation is incomplete. While there are no signs of any conflicting antivirus software on your PC, the EPP component was not properly installed.

    To resolve this, we recommend the following steps:

    1. Uninstall the product using our official Uninstallation Tool. Note: Kindly make sure that you have synced your vault to another device/exported the vault before running the tool.
    2. Restart your computer.
    3. Reinstall the product, ensuring that you run both the uninstaller and the installer with administrative rights.

    Please let us know the outcome after reinstallation. We're here to support you every step of the way and look forward to your confirmation.

    @joford could you please confirm whether you uninstalled the product using Control Panel or the Uninstallation Tool?

    If you used our tool and the issue persists, I’ve sent you a private message. Kindly share the debug log with us so we can further investigate the matter.

    If you haven't used the Uninstallation Tool yet, we recommend doing so and letting us know the outcome.

    Thank you, and have a wonderful day.

    Firmy
    Community Manager | F-Secure Community
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  • rob_b
    rob_b Posts: 5 Explorer

    @Firmy @all

    Sorry But the uninstallation with the aforementioned Tool to uninstall completely the F-Secure App helped for one week, since 15th April I am not able anymore to update the Virus Definitions. I will reply to the same email case with the agent Olivia, that from my point of view there is a buggy behavior within F-Secure Update Device Function.

    Thanks for further analysis.

    Best,

    Rob

  • rob_b
    rob_b Posts: 5 Explorer

    Hello,

    As a follow-up, I have to mention also, that my Windows Updates are the latest fixes installed, so this also can not be the reason. I guess there are some conflicts with other Application likewise Acronis True Image etc something where they may share a required windows system file (conflict issue). Just some thoughtful food….

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Still waiting for F-Secure 25.4 Version

  • KAndy1806
    KAndy1806 Posts: 4 Explorer

    @Firmy

    Sorry for not having earlier time to follow your proposal.But GOOD NEWS: now my F-Secure is working fine.

    • Uninstallation with 'FsUninstallationTool.exe' and
    • Re-Installation and
    • Reboot

    helps. 'Device Protection' module installed w/o looping.

    Hopefully, it stays that way.

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    @KAndy1806 used the mentioned solution for ASUS E510 Win 11 Home from year 2024-05

    1.Un-install via F-Secure Tool incl. Restart - Re-boot

    https://www.f-secure.com/en/support/tools

    2.Install F-Secure TOTAL from My F-Secure , takes forever before the Installation starts !

    https://www.f-secure.com/se-sv

    Note: Installs Windows NET x.y.z something


    3.Result 1 = Device Protection Installation Fails

    3.1 Result 2 = Device Protection 1.0.2503.5246 Installation Ok after some Time

    4. VPN takes forever to Config by F-Secure TOTAL Version 25.4 ??

    5. Device Protection 1.0.2503.5246 Installation still Loop installs with Version 25.4 ??

    6. FSDIAG Zip created via F-Secure TOTAL App Support function

    7. Upload the FSDIAG Zip file to F-Secure

    https://www.f-secure.com/en/support/submit-a-sample

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    Seams F-Secure TOTAL Version 25.4 did Klåpa - Messed Up Desktop Runtime 6.0.36 and Desktop Runtime 8.0.13 now with error code 2203

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-windows-desktop-runtime-not-installing/33aa2200-93f7-409f-a439-d7b1fafefba1

    So Trouble Shooting ongoing …

  • Molly1900
    Molly1900 Posts: 42 Explorer

    F-Secure TOTAL Version 25.4 Installed finally after Desktop Runtime 6.0.36 and 8.0.13 error code 2203 Repair and VPN now also Working

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/error-installing-security-update-0x80070643/f380f6dd-057a-47fd-8867-233c9dc9182b

    Still Problem with Device Protection 1.0. 2503.5246 loop Install 🙄

    Win 11 downloaded .NET 8.0.15 Security Update for x64 Client (KB5056686) and removed Desktop Runtime 8.0.13 = double checked Controlpanel → Program → Programs and functions

    Device Protection 1.0. 2503.5246 loop Install 2025-05-06 kl 03:22 and the Time 03:22 present All the Time when Manually download F-Secure Updates …

  • Firmy
    Firmy Posts: 2,225 Community Manager

    Hello @Molly1900

    Thank you for your comment.

    We would greatly appreciate your assistance in running some tests to help us resolve this issue. I have sent you a private message with detailed instructions. Please follow the steps provided and let us know the outcome.

    Thank you, and have a wonderful day.

    Firmy
    Community Manager | F-Secure Community
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  • Stephan_T
    Stephan_T Posts: 1 Observer

    I have the same problem. Device protection update is failing for some weeks. I uninstalled F-Secure, did a reboot and reinstalled F-Secure with no effect.

    What shall I do?