banking protection and full time scans?

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Hello,
It could be, but it should not be so.
However, here it would be possible to mention or say a number of notes about each of the things mentioned:
- "full time scanning" (as "real time scanning" or "automatic scanning"?) may well consume resources and create a significant load. To some extent, this can consume RAM, CPU, and the device’s disk itself. But if we are talking about a regular 'background' scan - then it should not be very drastic. For example, my laptop is about 15 years old and I don’t feel any noticeable problems or stress on "normal" interaction with the system. Without F-Secure things don't happen much faster; when we are talking about browsing and such stuff.
- "banking protection" takes a number of measures when active banking protection session is activated. Therefore, there could probably be some consequences if some less common utilities or mail client software or something like that is used. This is relatively easy to check by trying to change the settings and options in the F-Secure UI. And see if the situation will be completely different with some options disabled.
However, it might be good to hear some additional descriptions of the problems; just to understand the situation more clearly. Such as:
such and it may even be affecting receipt and sending of emails from a standard email account
you can't send and receive emails while Banking Protection is activated. Or did you mean browsing protection or just active automatic scanning? By email account - did you mean some email client like outlook or something like this as an app?
I have had very very slow loading tabs
do you mean opening new tabs? Or opening browser with already opened tabs?
also, during Banking Protection session only?
and so on. just a bit more direct examples of difficulties.
Thanks!
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I occasionally have had Google Chrome and Gmail object to restrictions when Banking Protection was not seeming to be on. But my main concern is Mozilla Thunderbird app, works for a synchronized MSN Live account but has stopped working for my ISP email account. Began with getting mail but not allowing sends; now does neither and the login credentials are being rejected. Probably not an F-secure problem, otherthan the Gmail incidents "not a secure connection" or some such message.
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Yes, I am one of those People who tends to leave the tabs in the bar on in hopes or want of not losing the authentic connection. I realize it requires CPU and RAM resources, but, for the most part, there hasn't seemed to be much of a problem, Google is the one that objects the most. I have been able to adequately function well enough with three browsers open with each browser having thirty or more tabs in the bar active and waiting. It is kind of like the cookies are regenerated time and time again for the cookie monsters; I am not generating a totally new "history" of activity. They seem to object?
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Slow tabs that are open and trying to activate are sometimes slow and not fully loading as well as new URLs not opening the same as those that are already open. This could be a BOINC / Charity Engine problem. Or something else using the resources, like a max out on F-Secure "monitoring." My ISP has gone through a number of acquisitions recently and I am unfamiliar in the requirements of email authentications and protocols, as Live is 0Auth and ISP seems to not require anything special.
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I occasionally have had Google Chrome and Gmail object to restrictions when Banking Protection was not seeming to be on.
is this some kind of SSL/HTTPS error notification or something like ERR_BLOCKED_BY_CLIENT? Or "not a secure connection" as you mentioned.
or a branded page from F-Secure?
Browsing Protection (not Banking) can also block some resources due to a reputation for danger or suspicion. However, I don't think this would be a trouble when using gmail (for example). Unless some sort of content filtering is also used, or manual blocking lists are used (such as allow/deny websites list with custom domains list to block), or maybe there is a built-in adblocker/cookie-consent manager in F-Secure settings. If F-Secure Browsing Protection extension is not used / is not enabled - it may less effectively handle all this stuff.
But my main concern is Mozilla Thunderbird app, works for a synchronized MSN Live account but has stopped working for my ISP email account. Began with getting mail but not allowing sends;
Do you use VPN as well? For example, Sending emails when F-Secure VPN is turned on
And, maybe, your ISP changed something on their end. Can you access it directly; not by using Mozilla Thunderbird?
now does neither and the login credentials are being rejected. Probably not an F-secure problem, other than the Gmail incidents "not a secure connection" or some such message
Where do you see "not a secure connection" in relation to Gmail? Is it also app? Or web-interface?
And if web interface, such as - opening website/using it or just opening email and somewhere near it?
I have been able to adequately function well enough with three browsers open with each browser having thirty or more tabs in the bar active and waiting.
I think it could add some lag as such. And, basically, F-Secure can slightly slow down the opening of a browser with multiple tabs (what is called restoring the session); but this is constantly trying to improve.
still I am not sure that "banking protection" is a major factor there.
Slow tabs that are open and trying to activate are sometimes slow and not fully loading as well as new URLs not opening the same as those that are already open.
Can you try to disable temporarily F-Secure Browsing Protection extension/addon if you using it. And check if things will be better/speedy?
My ISP has gone through a number of acquisitions recently and I am unfamiliar in the requirements of email authentications and protocols,
I think they should provide some sort of instructions about how to set up things.
And if they are still supported 'old' one services.
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I believe that it has been a response from WWW. (error code) and sometimes an F-secure (close all banking protection tabs), not sure though, about the message when attempting to use gmail, although I am able to play a youtube video, sometimes and sometimes not as well as use email sometimes and sometimes not.
As for Thunderbird, I have not used the VPN for about a month, as I was being blocked from logging into financial concerns when it was on. They object to an unrecognized IP address. I am able to access the email service on the web, even recognizes my password, which Mozilla does not. Seems to be a configuration problem with security or something. ISP attempted to try other ports and such, but I am wondering whether the client is insisting on using a more secure method of authentication, like what MSN required about a year ago. Doesn't seem to allow me to install a remember password in the configuration.
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thanks for your response.
I believe that it has been a response from WWW. (error code) and sometimes an F-secure (close all banking protection tabs),
When F-Secure browser extension is used, then indeed any frontend blocking will be accompanied by a page, if there were words about protecting banking operations (like page is blocked due an active banking protection session) - then - apparently the banking session was not finished. It should be finished if you: closed tab with banking website, closed browser or manually click 'end' button in the green frame of Banking Protection area (when expanded).
If you do use browser without F-Secure browser extension (or it is disabled) - then there may be such 'unclear' blockings without clear description of reason. Especially if in some other browser there is a banking protection triggered.
However, since of your mention of using "BOINC/Charity Engine" - it could be due network lag or sort of things. For example, website tried to establish encrypted connection but it took to much time and 'connection' is somehow rejected/timeout. Or some other form of delay and why the page would not respond at the expected time. Probably, refreshing the page is the easy way to fix it if the reason is something about F-Secure actions and not about some constant load in background. Such as - it will be possible to use website after refreshing it (like F5 keyboard button or related 'button' in browser's user interface).
Seems to be a configuration problem with security or something. ISP attempted to try other ports and such, but I am wondering whether the client is insisting on using a more secure method of authentication, like what MSN required about a year ago. Doesn't seem to allow me to install a remember password in the configuration.
I supposed so. Because many clients (like Mozilla Thunderbird) may stop supporting or only support a specific protocol or connection method. I don't know what to advise, except to make sure that the latest version of the application is used and maybe look at some of their Help/Documentation.
And again - if you are using the beta version of F-Secure, then if there is a possibility to understand or consider that their software somehow affects this, then it is best to send a bug report with fsdiag logs.
Also if you could to construct some steps to reproduce your difficulties - it will be possible to troubleshoot it via discussion too. For example, step-by-step routine to receive one sort of trouble or another. Or to describe the most recent event (when it is happened randomly) and think if something was different during this attempt to use something like gmail or youtube; browser itself or email client application.
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So, I have gathered that the slow tab and web page problem is that Google search engine says that something is using the www too much. The only processes that I am able to identify would be BOINC/Charityengine, or having a compromised PC (hacked). This condition comes and goes, I have experienced this about two times and it lasts several or more days and then abates, like the notice states.
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I wouldn't say that such a notification from Google is completely groundless, but in general it happens often without good reason.
Sometimes it depends on your ISP (Internet service provider) or, say, the number of devices connected simultaneously to your network (if it’s at home, then, say, to your router) and such things.
for example, the IP used (obtained from the provider) was previously used for some bad purposes by some other users and now Google looks with suspicion at requests from users with such an IP. It is not uncommon for ISPs to constantly change and allocate temporary 'dynamic' IPs (say, for a day or while the active connection is in effect). It "rotates" among its clients if they have not purchased a static IP.
Sometimes if I do a very active Google Search'ing (do a query and then look through all the pages of the results listed and do another query or two, I will see this too). More often - if there are many devices on the same network and many people use Google Search on their devices at the same time. Otherwise, I would not see any reason why this is shown at these moments.
if after completing reCaptcha - the following requests to Google (or something else) do not require repeated "checks", then the situation is most likely closer to normal.
However, I would recommend:
- run a full system scan using a security solution (F-Secure: opening main user interface, Device Protection card, run Full Scan option)
- check that there are no unnecessary browser extensions and check that all the necessary ones are reliable and updated.
maybe try to use browser with InPrivate mode (Incognito mode) and see if there will be reCaptcha requests (at the time of their occurrence). This is in case something is wrong with cookies/cache settings.
More often, such checks will be requested if Google believes that a VPN is being used. I mean when there are no other complicating circumstances.
I don't know how the mentioned CharityEngine works, but if any proxy settings are required (among other things), then maybe they are "intentionally" or "accidentally" also distributed to the browser, which can also affect such results.
But scanning the entire device (not a quick scan, but a full scan) and rechecking the browser extensions used (if used) certainly won't hurt.
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