SENSE Feature Requests

Scholar

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

2.) Nex Gen Sense Hardware should support Gigabit Speed Support (w/all Security Features enabled)

Priority = Low for now (see my subequent post explaining more of the reasoning), but a very high priority to ensure that this makes it into the Sense v2 hardware product whenever the right time is for that to happen down the road.  The Sense v2 needs to have a future-proof-ed CPU that can support the packet and inspection rates that would be needed.  That way, the Sense Team could light up full gigabit support on launch of a v2 product (or alternatively, gradually light up higher bandwidth over time via future software updates that serve to unlock more and more of the underlying CPU horsepower).  I'm not sure how much longevity F-Secure is looking to get on each hardware SKU they release (best guess would be 1-2 years each), but given that, I don't think that F-Secure would want to be headed into 2019/2020 without underlying Gigabit compatible hardware given where the market already is (and where it's likely to go).

 

Summary

The Sense is currently CPU limited to about 350 <-> 650 Mbps of upload/download bandwidth depending on your exact network patterns as laid out here:
https://community.f-secure.com/t5/F-Secure-SENSE/What-is-the-routing-and-WiFi/ta-p/93695

 

This is very challenging for anyone paying their ISP for 400 Mbps+ worth of bandwidth. We are all essentially being capped by our Sense devices vs. our actual ISPs and thus throwing $$$ and precious bits and bytes down the drain every month Smiley Sad

 

Also to be clear, Gigabit speed means Gigabit speed with all of the normal security features that we'd use being fully enabled.  Don't give us Gigabit speed only if we strip down our security by disabling a bunch of important security settings.  Otherwise, what's the point of buying a Sense vs. picking up one of the many Consumer WIFI routers that is capable of running at Gigabit speeds? 

 

To be more specific, there are at least 13 or so Consumer Routers that can more or less fill a Gigabit link (let's say 930-ish Mb/s) as shown via Small Net Builder's LAN <-> WAN benchmarks.

 

Now to be fair, these routers don’t fit in what we might call the emerging “Consumer Security Router” product category, which I would loosely define as the:

  • F-Secure Sense
  • Norton Core
  • Asus RT-88U (with Trend Micro’s AI Protection enabled)

And that category matters of course, because a Security Router is always going to be doing much more packet / flow intensive work than a regular router would. 

 

That said, Asus is already doing a solid job of blending IOT security features (via their bundled AI Protection from Trend Micro) with the normal benefits that you can get from what I might call a tradtional WIFI router (these devices have lots more features even if they may be lacking in security compared to the Sense).  Net, net there is real competition here in this space for Sense (even if the Norton Core team has been busy dealing with product quality issues as of late.  For more details, scan the history of the Norton Core's slowly, yet gradually improving Amazon ratings over the last 6 months.  Also to be clear, I mean no disrespect to the Norton Team here.  My point simply is that Norton will eventually release a v2 and the F-Secure needs to be both ready and to not underestimate it when they do.

 

 

Why should this be Addressed?

Here are some key stats to help show the size and growth of how this problem will grow if it is not addressed in F-Secure's next hardware platform

 

- Analysis of deployments indicates that 219 million people globally now have gigabit Internet available to them (as of 5/2017)

 

- There are currently 603 (I'm assuming they mean ISPs here) gigabit Internet implementations, up 72% from last June (as of 6/2017)

 

- The United States has the highest number of people with access to gigabit Internet at 56.4 million (as of 5/2017)

 

Sources 

http://www.broadbandtechreport.com/articles/2017/06/a-look-at-gigabit-s-growth-trajectory.html
http://www.broadbandtechreport.com/articles/2017/05/viavi-gigabit-available-to-219-million-people.ht...

Scholar

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

3.) MAC Filtering

Priority = Very, very High.  IMHO, this should be high on the Product Management and Engineering Team's short list (along with other key table stakes type features still missing like Guest WIFI, etc.)

 

Summary

Hopefully, MAC Filtering needs little introduction, explanation, nor justification for it to be included towards the top of the list as it's a bread and butter type feature.  Without MAC Filtering, we have a a much more limited ability to implement standard Layer 2 security best practices using "Default Deny" type techniques.

Scholar

Re: Sense feature wishlist

4.) Tracking URL White Listing

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Priority = Moderate

 

Summary

Implement a list, which collects all tracking URLs that are being blocked and provide a method or setting for users to whitelist them individually in the future.  This would definitely be very helpful to have.  That said, from a priority POV, I would still put it below other key missing features like MAC Filtering in case it helps.

FormerMember
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Re: SENSE Feature Requests

I would certainly hope that they don't release a 2nd gen device when the first one is still in the stage that it pretty much was a year ago.

But in the other hand, nothing would surprise me at this point.

Scholar

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

Yeah, 1SK, I 100% agree with you, and so I should probably better clarify my last post there.

 

I agree with you that the current top priority right now should be to round out the Sense v1 product vs. throwing all of their resources at the Sense v2 product.  My point there was simply to say that I feel that the team should keep the CPU in mind one they get to their v2 planning. 

 

The key thing about Product Management and Engineering Teams is that different parts of the team are often simultaneously working on different generations of products at different times of the year.  So I just want to make sure that the CPU limitations in the v1 product is something they keep in mind for their Roadmap planning whenever the time is right for them to get to it.

Supporter

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

If they released new hardware without fixing existing issues or improving the current one further, I would drop F-Secure so hard your head would spin. (But I wouldn't be surprised at the rate they are going.)
Aspirant

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

Hi!

 

I bought a Siemens dishwasher which came with application control via mobile phone (Home Connect). Connecting dishwasher to wifi (yes I know) went well but when I tried to connect dishwasher to mobile phone I got errors. It turned out that Home Connect requires multicast-routing from access point.

 

I replaced Sense with old Apple Airport -access point and Home Connect worked fine and I got dishwasher and mobile phone paired. But when I changed Sense back in duty connection broke down again. 

 

So what we need is to Sense stop blocking multicast-traffic!

 

Thank You!

FormerMember
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Re: SENSE Feature Requests

Decided to also post this info on this topic also, since a lot have been waiting for this:

 

Happy to inform everyone that the latest firmware and latest beta app now shows the option for the guest network in the network settings.

Firmware version is 2018-03-21_01 - p-1.5.1.48

 

You can force firmware update with probably just rebooting sense by unpluggin it from the power.

(or set the router updates to immediately before reboot)

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Aspirant

Re: Sense feature wishlist

It would be great if I could block IP blocks  such as all of Russia or China etc. 

Aspirant

Re: SENSE Feature Requests

I would really appreciate having Freedome integrated in SENSE soon. The 9,99€ monthly fee for SENSE is quite a lot money that it should cover Freedome as well. I won‘t pay for both services. Thank you!