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After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.

Superuser

Re: After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.

I was slightly put off from using Bitdefender Safe Pay, because although it claims to be a secure browser, I still wasn't sure where the actual data was passing through, in that, does the browser store data, etc? At least with FS, you are still using your own default browser, which, to me, makes me feel more secure.
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Re: After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.


Simon napisali:
I was slightly put off from using Bitdefender Safe Pay, because although it claims to be a secure browser, I still wasn't sure where the actual data was passing through, in that, does the browser store data, etc? At least with FS, you are still using your own default browser, which, to me, makes me feel more secure.

Safepay tests MRG Effitas is a better solution from F-Secure.
Only the essential question is - why?
Safepay is based on the old engine, Google Chrome so in itself already has a few holes. And so it is better solution than Eset, which in its dedicated browser for transfers, Eset allows the operation of JAVA and Flash.

 

BigPete napisali:

I'm now using Bitdefender (Antivirus Plus version). I think F-Secure uses some of Bitdefender's detection engines. Bitdefender does not use add-ons for its web protection (i.e. site rating & blocking).

 

I haven't used Safepay, but I think Safepay is separate from Firefox. Safepay is Bitdefender's own secure browser that you can use for banking transactions, etc.

 

F-Secure uses Bitdefender engine (Aquarius).
The rest of the solutions in the F-Secure and Bitdefnder already own solutions.

Safepay package Bitdefender act like you wrote.
While Safepay installed separately (http://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/safepay.html) already has the same problems as the protection of banking F-Secure in terms of Firefox

Personally, I think Bitdender beside the F-Secure is one of the best AV.

Superuser

Re: After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.

Hello,

 

Sorry for my reply.

 

BigPete's quote:

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Bitdefender does not use add-ons for its web protection (i.e. site rating & blocking).

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But does you mean experience with F-Secure (based on Firefox) about full "not workable" status for protection feature? Or we talk just about visible results as "rating pictures" do not comes under HTTPS search engine (Google HTTPS, Bing HTTPS, Yahoo HTTPS) and partly can be mistake in some of "intercept network traffic"?

 

I mean that basically F-Secure do not use add-ons for web protection with meanings "provide blocking or site-reputation/rating". This is mainly based on Security Cloud. And if "it was unavailable' (as server) - so there is can be indeed "trouble in protection" (when user will be able to visit malicious page or rating-reputation simply does not comes for user's system).

 

When add-ons disabled (or not work) there most likely you still able to get block-page (you noted this under your words too) about malicious and suspicious pages. Also most likely you still able to get search-results under HTTP Bing search results. As additional "F-Secure Search"-service provide search results under HTTPS (and Google-based) even if there F-Secure not installed. Where you not able to get "restricted" ratings.. as example, but all other "not based on user's decision" ratings will be same.

Banking Protection should work also.. not based on status of extension/addons.

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I can to feel there is just next not common situations:

--> If Firefox with some of builds.. start be with changes... and as result... for F-Secure this browser start be some kind of "not supported" (as result most of features can be partly broken; additional to HTTPS-support by add-on... there already can be missing Banking Protection flyer or blocking web-pages).

For example.. not all Chrome/Chromium/Blink-cores browsers will trigger Banking Protection (but some of them  able to do this.. eventually). But practically all of them compatible with manual installation of extension/addon (browsing protection), which will provide search-result ratings for HTTPS search (and normally show block-page under HTTPS connection). But if there is not installed add-on.. anyway will be search results for Bing (HTTP) and pages will be blocked.
Browsing Protection/Ratings/Reputations works over-the-browsers..... but for normal work with secured-connections (HTTPS) required addon/extension. For providing this ability (and aboit critical risks about privacy).

--> Or just extension/addon start be partly not compatible with fresh builds of Firefox.. and as results.. there broken HTTPS-support for provide search-rating under HTTPS search provider's pages... and eventually can be random (or missing) some of triggers for Banking Protection.

 

Mainly.. I mean that F-Secure do not use addons for "protection feature" too. But using this for provide "proper" (and some kind of "advanced"/"stealthy") work of protection features.

 Anyway... sorry for my reply.

Practically all troubles can not be "lovely for us". Just some of them can be not so critical.... but of course.. not nice.

 

Thanks.

 

Scholar

Re: After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.

I'm running Charter Security Suite Version 16.1.  This is an F-Secure product.  I have also lost the website rating symbols after the last upgrade (to version 16.1).  It appears from some posts that this has been corrected for F-Secure users.  I'm wondering if a "fix" is on the way for the Charter suite?  The Charter folks seem to be unaware of the problem.

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Scholar

Re: After F-Secure engine update no longer getting website ratings on Google search.

As of this morning (January 8, 2017), the web ratings are back on Chrome on my system.  I'm assuming Google must have done something???