Bank protection no longer showing.

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  • Simon
    Simon Posts: 2,667 Superuser
    It's odd that changing the home page by the described, albeit convoluted, method worked for others, which suggests that maybe the 'fix' by that method was coincidental. Just out of curiosity, though, did you check that the change you'd made to that file had actually 'saved'?
  • NikK
    NikK Posts: 903 Forum Champion

    This is how I tested:

     

    Close Firefox

    Open Notepad as Administrator (right-click on Notepad)

    Open the install.rdf file

    Change the value between <em:homepageURL> and </em:homepageURL>   For example set it to: http://www.f-secure.com

    Save the file

    Start Firefox 

    Go to add-ons and click "More" for Online Safety. There you should now see the new Homepage value.

  • rob-bob
    rob-bob Posts: 13

    Success! - eventually have got addon enabled. (must have been finger problems)

     

    Now, the original problem - the notification when accessing a an online banking page, still does not show i.e no 'popup?' saying 'banking protection on' appears.

     

    All used banking sites are in the Allowed Website exceptions list.

     

    So, if the addon is enabled, is it actually working on these sites?

     

    Apologies for dumb questions

  • Ukko
    Ukko Posts: 3,611 Superuser

    Hello,

     

    But what about other features?! Rating during searching by Google (for example)?

     

    In my situation and with my device (where have installed Firefox)..... extension installed normally...

    And Enabled...

     

    Simply it's not working :)  But I not checked it now.

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    Settings, of course, with Turn ON status.

  • NikK
    NikK Posts: 903 Forum Champion

    You can test the add-on by visiting http://unsafe.fstestdomain.com/

     

    It's the test page for Browsing Protection and should show a message that the web site is blocked.

  • NikK
    NikK Posts: 903 Forum Champion

    @Ukko wrote:

     

    But what about other features?! Rating during searching by Google (for example)?

     


    If you have the add-on NoScript installed for example, you need to allow google scripts to see the search ratings.

     

    If you don't want to allow scripts I recommend the add-on WOT (Web of Trust) to get ratings.

    You can of course use both ratings too to be even safer. F-Secure + WOT   I've seen many examples(sites) where one says green and the other red, that's why I want both ratings.

  • Ukko
    Ukko Posts: 3,611 Superuser

    Hello,

     

    Firefox without any addons/plugins - except F-Secure extensions and maybe some of default (if it's have); Simply in my situation between F-Secure extension and Firefox new version - all features of Online Safety close to "dropped";

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    Also... that situation not critical for me - because I can not to choose browser like Firefox, where for any normal "settings" have to install "plugins/addons"; For example, for "Turn OFF" option "show pictures"; It's strange.

    And... current trouble... I feeling.. like Firefox-strange troubles, which not certainly related with F-Secure.

     

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    About... WOT - it's nice application/company....   but it's can not be useful for me (here same with another type of "same" plugins/applications like Bitdefender TrafficLight or AVG LinkChecker (or LinkScanner?!)...)

    It's too much load system, browser, surfing/browsing.

    Simply also.. I not sure in quality of that realization (here not about WOT);

     

    WOT maybe nice.. but here was just "user's rating" - it's not always are OK. A lot of... strange, scum pages... can be marked as good... just because users of WOT love it :)

    But indeed can be very helpful in some situations.

  • hamishk
    hamishk Posts: 3

    Hi, I have been wrestling with the same issue since I upgraded to Firefox 29.01. I believe I have done

    all the recommended things seen in the thread, and certainly the OnlineSafety is shown as enabled

    and is version 2.107.2548. When I visit the suggested test site using Internet Explorer, then the site

    is blocked. When using Firefox the site is not blocked:

     

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    So with this version of Firefox:

     

    1. the "Banking Protection" banner does not appear

    2. it seems you are able to visit unsafe sites

    3. the ratings do not appear beside google search results

     

    (with IE all these items work for now)

     

    Of course now I have to re-install firefox / try to get back to version 28/ or just forget about it and

    use IE.  Now I am really glad I decided to upgrade Firefox on only one of the PC's in the house !

     

  • BigPete
    BigPete Posts: 42 Observer
    I can confirm the same problem in Windows XP SP3. Ever since the Firefox 29 upgrade, online safety will not work. Specifically, the check mark ratings in Google are gone. And, F-secure did not block me from visiting the test site. Also, Firefox strict compatibility was not the issue. I checked the about:config menu and strict compatibility was already set to "false." The strange thing is that Firefox says online safety is enabled. Yet, it's clearly not working.
  • hamishk
    hamishk Posts: 3

    Just to add a couple of comments:

     

    1. OS in the computer where Online Safety is not working is Windows XP Professional SP3, as

    mentioned in BigPete's post.

     

    2. I rolled back Firefox to version 28 and all features are working again with respect to Online safety

    (Site ratings, Sites blocked, Banking protection banner appears).

     

    Just now don't have time to check in the W7 and W8 machines I have.

     

    I have a lot of special SW for design and instrument control that works on XP machine, so upgrade

    is not really possible. I will have to retire this computer from "Online Use" if online safety related issues

    aren't anymore supported in XP.

  • Ukko
    Ukko Posts: 3,611 Superuser

    So, my experience with Firefox 29 also about SP3 (but another edition);

     

    With other devices (modern systems)... I not really want to install Firefox (just because - it's a little be strange browser);

     

    How already wrote - previously.... also all features with Firefox normal working and just with Firefox 29 start be that situation around "dropped F-Secure extension's features" (but.. yes.. here I mean... not really extension; I mean - Online Safety and extension like addition, which marked as "enabled"/"compatiblity"/"other settings are nice too").

     

    And if current situation related with platform... so Firefox start be more "strange" for me :)

     

    But anyway.. maybe here just changes with some of "rules" for extensions or modifications for "browser"- which Firefox 29 prefer in another view... and it's can be with another platforms too (?)

  • hamishk
    hamishk Posts: 3

    Just checked in a second computer running Windows 8.1 with all patches,

    and Firefox version 29.0.1 seems to work together with the Online Safety,

    at least Site Ratings are there in Google searches, and Banking Protection

    banner appears when accessing a bank site. Didn't try accessing blocked site.

     

    hamishk.

     

     

  • NikK
    NikK Posts: 903 Forum Champion

    I wrote earlier that you could test the add-on by visiting http://unsafe.fstestdomain.com/  I have to take that back Smiley Embarassed I ran some tests(in FF):

     

    Browsing Protection works without the add-on enabled. I even restarted FF, cleared the cache etc to be sure. The part that works without the add-on is: blocking harmful sites. The safety ratings doesn't work.

    I thought the add-on needed to be enabled for this but the only requirement seems to be F-Secure - Online Safety - Settings - Browsing protection = ON.

     

    Unfortunately it seems impossible to get Banking Protection to work without the add-on enabled and working properly. Perhaps it's related to OS? I'm running Win7 and have never had any problems with any FF version.

     

    So it seems the add-on handles safety ratings and Banking Protection, but not the blocking of harmful sites.

     

    But what about this: I also have Opera installed and it shows no Online Safety extension(nor Plug-Ins). Opera isn't even mentioned as supported browsers for Banking Protection. But guess what happens when I go to a bank site in Opera? Banking Protection starts Smiley Very Happy  (how does that work???)

     

    Can F-Secure please inform us how this works!

  • Ukko
    Ukko Posts: 3,611 Superuser

    Hello,

     

    Probably here all OK.

     

    Plugins/extensions more needed for HTTPS-support, rating-communcation and maybe etc. things.

    All other just related with Online Safety features, which probably can be related with "plugins/addons" - but work.. more like "modification" and not require anything to install.

     

    About Opera (latest version you mean?!) - it's just already and yet.... totally "blink-core", which without "much different" with Google Chrome.

    And any features (Online Safety) will be work here too.

    Also you able to install chrome-extension to Opera by hand (probably it's will be work);

    And here will be all OK - because it's can be "marked" as supported browser (Google Chrome);

    Or if you have installed Google Chrome.. maybe it's just take "extension"-information for Opera.. and Banking protection goes to work-status without "manually installed extension". 

     

    Maybe Firefox 29 and Firefox... a little be different for "checking" about "supported browser or not". :) But for my opinion - here Firefox create something strange for that situation.

     

     

    But anyway... nice... if here will be answer by F-Secure team.

  • Simon
    Simon Posts: 2,667 Superuser
    SeaMonkey isn't officially supported either, but Banking Protection works. I assumed that was because it ran on the same engine as Firefox, but that obviously wouldn't explain why it works with Opera.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Former F-Secure Employee

    Hello All,

     

    There are currently issues with Firefox 29.0.1 on Windows XP SP3.

    Online Safety(OLS) and Banking protection in certain cases aren't properly working as you reported.

    Our teams are working on the issue and we will come back to you as soon as possible.

     

    For the time being using another web browser is advised.

     

    @NikK Concerning officially unsupported browser, OLS might be working but as they haven't been fully tested, we cannot guarantee that they protect you properly.

  • Carsten
    Carsten Posts: 1

    Hello all

    I have the same problem that was mentioned here. I found a workaround without going to another browser. Everything is working fine with the Firefox-Add-In "IE Tab". If a banking site is opened with the IE-Tab, the protection bar is working.

    If nothing else helps you can tell the extension to open the sites with the problems only with IE-Tab.

     

    Regards

    Carsten

     

     

     

  • nigelD
    nigelD Posts: 3 Observer

    Thanks for the discussion - I have now reverted to Firefox 28 and all is working OK again.

  • nigelD
    nigelD Posts: 3 Observer

    I should add that my wife also has Firefox 29 and F-Secure and has NO problem but she uses a laptop with Windows 7 whereas I use XP SP3 so it looks like it is FF29/F-Secure/XP that has the problem. 

  • rob-bob
    rob-bob Posts: 13

    @Ben wrote:

    For the time being using another web browser is advised.

     




    Is this stil the only solution?

    I am not happy with this - have numerous problems with IE, IE Tab..... and not ecstatic about having to run an older version of a browser to get around the problems of one application.

     

    As it is approacing the time to renew my FS, do I search for another solution?

  • Niklas
    Niklas Posts: 28 Contributor

    Sorry for the long reply time.

    At this time we are not aware about people having any issues with Firefox and the banking protection if the broswer is up to date and the plugin is the latest version.

     

    Regards

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