WPA-3

Paradise

Hello,

  I want to buy a F-secure Sense but i see that he didn't support WPA3. New Android 10 support WPA3.

If i buy F-secure Sense it's not for a few months.

 

Wifi Alliance : https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/security

 

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-easy-connect

Certified phone : https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=default&sort_order=desc&categories=4&capabilities=16

 

 

 

 

Sethu

Hello @Paradise 

 

Thank you for your interest in F-Secure Sense, I will check this with our Sense team and will update you here soon.

Sethu

Hello @Paradise 

 

Our SENSE team said that we are evaluating the technically feasibility of WPA3. This doesn’t depend on F-Secure only. It should come as no surprise that F-Secure didn’t build the wifi chips and other Hardware elements in SENSE.

 

We used wifi chips and their drivers from third party suppliers and the technical feasibility of supporting WPA3 depends largely on those third parties.

 

We naturally take full responsibility of our product and do everything possible to maintain and increase its Cyber Security in all features, including those that we’ve built and those that come from third parties as well, such as the wifi.

 

Having said that, we won’t necessarily be able to do things that 3^rd party suppliers in the product would be unable to support.

 

Also worth noting that while your new Android 10 phone may support WPA3 your old home router will likely not support it. Nor will the wifi support it in your favorite café or the wifi at the airport or on the bus. That is, SENSE aside, you won’t benefit from this feature of your new Android phone for quite a while.

 

It will be years before the majority of the routers will support this.

 

Chances are, your Android 10 phone will be replaced to a newer one before the routers you are connecting to will get WPA3. Very likely there will be very few routers already in use getting a Software update to support this. Most likely the support for this in routers will come through the Hardware replacement cycle.

 

That being said, SENSE has solid protection functions that will serve you for many years to come, even without WPA3.

 

(if WPA3 would turn out to be not feasibility through Software update by any chance).

WPA3 has many valuable features, no questions there. That said, getting infected because your home wifi’s WPA2 is hacked is way less likely than you ending up on a malicious website that serves some malware or hosts some phishing scam.

 

You’ll have a good protection against the latter with SENSE. For the former, just select a strong unique password for your Wi-Fi and you’ll be pretty safe even on WPA2. You may use a good password manager for that, such as F-Secure KEY.

JamesW

Unfortunately it seems WPA3 also has security issues?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/04/11/flaws-in-wpa3-wi-fi-standard-allow-attackers-to-crack-passwords-and-view-traffic/#5d0b8b7b7050

 

I'm hoping for a "software solution" for both WPA2, and WPA3 but in the meantime I guess I could always just use an ethernet cable to plug my laptop directly into the router instead of using wifi or use an usb to ethernet adapter with ethernet cable to plug chromevook/ touchpads directly to the router.

Paradise

Thanks for your reply.

 

Today my routeur is a FRITZ!Box 7590.

 They also plan to support WPA3 :  https://avm.de/service/fritzbox/fritzbox-7590/wissensdatenbank/publication/show/3481_Unterstutzt-die-FRITZ-Box-WPA3/

 

 My routeur is a Synology RT2600AC with VDSL link 100/40 Mbits and cable as backup and 4G for testing (also as backup).

Since a few month Synology support WPA3. : https://www.synology.com/en-global/srm/feature/convenient_wireless_control

 

Also 1 MR2200AC for mesh and also WPA3 compatible.

https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/MR2200ac

(i my new house, i will have 1 other MR200AC (RT2600AC on -1 floor, MR2200AC on ground floor and MR2200AC on the 1st floor)

 

I like to buy a SENSE but he must be compatible with WPA3. If not i will wait SENSE2 who will support WPA3 (i am sure ;-) ).

 

Some of  my smart devices will be on a special VLAN with SENSE as protection against cyber attacks (TV, Blueray, home multimedia, fire tv, LIFX,...)

 

Why ?

With the RT2600AC I have a threat prevention program.
I am very surprised by the number of attacks to try to get rights from the Internet on home machines. Protecting a PC, NAS, server is quite easy but I have a big fear on smart devices. Because these objects rarely have updates.

 

I have ± 40 IP addresses that are used by smart devices
(Sonos, Neato, Husqvarna, Netatmo, LIFX, HUE, Samsung, Alexa, Google Home,...)
(Sonos and Alexa in each room)

 

Best regards,

 

Paradise