17-01-2013 04:39 PM
I understand that the firewall is different from 2012 and has no Application Control.
So how can I choose what applications should not connect to the Internet?
Alternatively: I could presumalbly deactivate the FSecure firewall and install another - OK?
Or could I even unistall the FSecure firewall?
Or is it, maybe , better to forget about FSecure and get another internet Security?
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17-01-2013 05:20 PM
F-Secure internet security 2013 uses windows firewall for allowing/blocking connections; which, in fact, isn't bad firewall(at least compared to what F-Secure had in past).
Well, that's what I think...
17-01-2013 06:40 PM
17-01-2013 06:54 PM
> F-Secure internet security 2013 uses windows firewall for allowing/blocking connections
That is a correct statement.
> which, in fact, isn't bad firewall (at least compared to what F-Secure had in past)
I cannot agree with that. F-Secure's Distributed Firewall is a full-fledged packet filtering firewall module, which works, but its rule-creation logic is a bit convoluted. F-Secure DFW continues to serve well within the F-Secure Client Security corporate desktop protection product.
In contrast, the Microsoft factory built-in firewall in Windows XP is a sad joke. That is important, because F-Secure Internet Security 2013 does support Windows XP SP3, which still has a strong user base worldwide. I wish F-Secure spoke about the security situation of Windows XP users following the omission of DFW from FSIS 2013.
Regards: Tamas Feher, Hungary.
17-01-2013 08:00 PM
Well, that F-Secure now relies on Windows' "firewall", that is a "sad joke", is in my view really a good reson to use ANOTHER Internet Security. Too bad that I didn't know that before I paid the subscription for another year... (But I can, of course, keep F-Secure 2012, so far.)
Unless - of course - I can deactivate that "firewall" and use a third party firewall!
So please, someone, tell me if and how I can!
19-01-2013 10:09 AM - edited 19-01-2013 10:10 AM
Since I don't receive a helpful reply that would enable me to use a third-party firewall, I have to consider version 2013 to be a DOWNGRADE of F-Secure Internet Security and I am now planning to end my relationship with F-Secure, as good as it has been until now, and choose another one.
Sorry about that! It was good as long as it lasted, but as it has become now, having to rely on the Windows firewall that is known to not be the best (rather a bit far from it), it looks that this will have to be my decision.
19-01-2013 12:25 PM - edited 19-01-2013 01:18 PM
F-Secure Internet Security 2013 includes a new Cloud-based firewall with intelligent control by DeepGuard, which is the essential to counter today’s malware and online attacks! It automatically prevents exploits from entering the computer and malware from stealing private data.
For manual firewall rules, we utilize the built-in Microsoft firewall, which offers better compatibility with IPv6 and third party applications. The Windows's Port Filter for inbound protection which in practice will be blocking all inbound traffic. There is not much room for improvement here and one port filter is as good as the other.
Please find the article explaining what happened to the new firewall functionality and find more detail comments here. Also, find the review of F-Secure Internet Security 2013 by PCMag.com here and AV-Test.org here.
Hope this helps you understand the new implementation of the firewall in Internet Security 2013 better.
Edited: Review by AV-Test added.
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19-01-2013 12:36 PM - edited 19-01-2013 12:36 PM
I am skeptical about "cloud based " applications and the PCMag article isn't as positive as one would like to see it. Read the cons, also.
So I wonder how many users will back off from F-Secure after this "development"...
At least I will... There are better solutions!
20-01-2013 10:22 AM - edited 20-01-2013 10:24 AM
The new arrangement with the firewall is, as far as I could see when quickly looking into your webpage, not mentioned there. Only at one place did I see the word “cloud based”, but not in respect to the firewall. Apparently one has to dig deeper to find this information there. Many may hesitate when they read “cloud based”, since most will want to have everything in their own computer and not spread out in clouds… At least for essential software like this one.
It is worse for updaters, who want to renew their subscription and at the same time update to 2013. They will not first look into your webpage and are taken by surprise with this “innovation.” I suppose that they then face a choice when they install the new version. A choice between 1) a firewall in the clouds or 2) using Windows’ firewall, which is not considered to be the best, especially for Windows XP (that many still use or even prefer to use). They will miss a third option, that in my opinion MUST be there in a transitional version, as 2013 can be called: 3) the same firewall as in 2012. But it isn’t there… However, those who choose whatever they choose will in many cases not renew their subscriptions next year… So you have caught them, after all, for another year, and what the world looks like then is in the clouds…
This to me is not a fully honest marketing strategy… It MUST be made CLEAR to customers, especially for subscription renewers, what they will get this time! Otherwise they buy the pig on a poke…
Luckily, I discovered this game in time and can still reconsider my choice and get the money back for the renewal, since I didn’t use it yet. 2012 still works two weeks more for me, enough time for a refreshing change.